12-01-2009 04:39 AM
12-01-2009 05:08 AM
12-01-2009 01:18 PM
12-02-2009 12:29 PM
12-02-2009 01:45 PM
wow! 7 pages of N900 requests! I don't want to use any specific word for these guys, but you guys need to keep quiet. If you keep looking for a deal, you can get unlocked N900 for $450 and then the data plan would cost only $10 a month instead of $35. If T-mobile subsidizes it for you, it will still be atleast $200 or so and you pay $35 a month for the data plan. Now you do the math, what works cheaper at the end of a year.
Besides that, its not only T-mobile's decision to make whether they want N900 or not. Its also whether Nokia wants to do a contract with any carrier or not. As far as I know, Nokia has never ever done a contract for its N series. If you guys wasted a few minutes using your general knowledge instead of filling 7pages, you'd have got it already.
12-02-2009 01:52 PM
12-02-2009 02:51 PM
12-03-2009 03:05 PM - last edited on 12-03-2009 03:27 PM
"Supported phones" term is just another of many shady marketing tactics used in USA. I am not sure why you want to pay $25/month more for the data plan just to hear that your phone is a supported phone by your carrier. The only difference from a non-supported phone is that in a supported phone you get T-mobile theme (wallpaper and ring tone) and a T-mobile logo printed on your phone. In my opinion, subsidizing phones creates more of a monopoly instead of more competition. Because then people don't want to spend money for so called "non-supported" phones. Nokia is popular in Asian market because no carrier subsidizes phones there, so people simply buy the phones that are best value for the price.
No subsidy for phones => No 2 year contracts => freedom to change carrier at anytime => more competition => lower airtime and data plan charges, free text messaging etc. => less profit from an extended contract vs. short time user => no subsidy for phones.
The above recursive formula will explain you whats the difference between US and Asian cell phone market and it also explains how US cell phone market is monopoly driven despite of multiple carriers. It is a "time-monopoly". Ofcourse, there are multiple competitors in US, but can you switch to any carrier any time? No. So that means you are living in a deceptive monopoly.
I write this here because I believe T-mobile supports these concepts to some extent. They charge the least for airtime and data plan compared to other carriers and they make it very easy for you to use an unlocked phone by sending T-mobile network information in an over-the-air packet as soon as you plug the SIM card in, i.e. Your unlocked phone configures it to the T-mobile network automatically via an open protocol (well most of the settings). T-mobile even lets you unlock their subsidized phones after 3 months of use. Why? They are confident that because they are competitively priced and have one of the best customer services, you won't switch to any other carrier, even if they set you free. Its like that quote from love-o-logy -> "If you love someone, you should set them free and when they come back to you, you will know that they love you".
12-03-2009 03:54 PM
12-04-2009 08:05 AM
An article about how the N900 may "give the number four carrier a leg up".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2356603,00.as
"The carrier could flirt with the geeks to boost its profile, attracting developers and creative types."
12-05-2009 01:06 PM
12-06-2009 09:51 PM
12-08-2009 03:49 PM
12-09-2009 02:55 PM
Adding my request here for the N900 to come to T-mobile. I'm currently an AT&T user, so I am on the fence about the N900 because of no 3G. A subsidized and supported version on T-mobile would get me to switch right away. I really hope T-mo is looking seriously at this.
12-12-2009 11:45 AM
At last, I've foundmy people'!
I have never stalked anyone, let alone a phone,
until now. Obviously I'm not the only one, judging form the responses on this thread, and appararntly a previous one.
I've been using my old nokia, with a broken screen (serious hassle and no texts in over 2 months), all the time thinking T Mobile would pick up this fabulous new phone, and I could use my phone upgrade to subsidize the price of the N900. Still I wait.
Please T Mobile, get thisphone NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't hold out much longer.
You're breaking my heart!
;-0
12-12-2009 11:47 AM
12-13-2009 10:27 AM
I am really hoping that T-Mobile picks up this phone: I've been asking for Nokia N-Series phones for over a year now.
I own an N85 -- I am forced to use 2G on it because T-Mobile USA won't open its network to 2100Mhz-only customers. It is open in Europe, so this is a local decision that's hurting T-Mobile's smartphone market. When I spoke to Jonathan Lynch, an executive at Corporate, he told me that the network was not prepared to handle too many smartphone customers, and that T-Mobile "wanted to stabilize the network" before opening its 2100Mhz frequency -- all of T-Mobile's phone operate on a franken-frequency of mixed 1700/2100 signals. He told me to contact him six months after our conversation to discuss T-Mobile's progress on both the network and the array of phones they offer.
It's been over six months. I held off on contacting him because when I saw the Nokia N900 was coming out for T-Mobile's frequencies, I was hoping the company would pick it up, thus answering my call for a N-Series phone I could use with T-Mobile that I could take with me to other countries. It's a great phone, so I was sure T-Mobile would pick it up.
The problem is: I think T-Mobile USA is run by people who are more concerned about cornering the low-end phone market than they are offering a full range of services. The executives I have talked to don't seem to want to be informed. Mr. Lynch had the audacity to tell me that he "questioned the quality of Nokia phones for T-Mobile's network," where I had to politely but forcefully respond to him that T-Mobile Europe offers them frequently, and that the ones I have used are of extremely good quality, certainly superior to T-Mobile's flop the Sony-Ericsson TM506 (the phone he used.) I got the impression from talking to Mr. Lynch that he knew precious little about cellphones outside of what T-Mobile had to offer. ("Phones can read barcodes, huh," he said during a conversation where I touted the N85's features. "Well, how many people actually use an FM transmitter?") I talked to a friend who works for T-Mobile in Boston, and he told me outright that corporate is so afraid of losing low-end phone customers that they were reluctant to expand its smartphone collection. T-Mobile USA seems to think Americans are too stupid to want phones with high-end features, and why create expensive contracts when folks are too dumb to take advantage of them?
I think T-Mobile needs to look at AT&T's business plan and wonder aloud at their own strategies.
I want to point out that high-level tech support at T-Mobile USA is the diametric opposite of corporate. They have proven on a regular basis to be very knowledgeable, and are at a loss as to how to move T-Mobile USA corporate to listen to their techs and their customers on the support of smartphones. I had one tech openly lament at me about this issue when I asked for progress on opening T-Mobile's 3G network. "T-Mobile tech, especially the old Voicestream guys, managed to figure out how best to use iPhones on 2G, and we welcomed the arrival of those customers. We've got our hands tied on 3G, however, and we know we are losing customers."
I'm going to say publicly that if T-Mobile continues to depend on HTC for its smartphone products and fails to either a) open the 3G frequency or b) offer better phones, low-end customers are all they are going to have.
That's not enough to run a company.
12-13-2009 07:42 PM
T-Mobile is going to lose my business if they do not sell competitive smartphones really fast. If they pass on offering the N900 I don't think I can wait any longer. I'd need a good reason to stay. In this Internet-savvy world how could T-Mobile not jump at this opportunity? Low-end phones will soon be smartphones!
12-13-2009 10:47 PM
12-14-2009 03:06 PM
Although I intend to buy an unlocked N900 in the next couple of months, I support the notion of T-Mobile offering this device - I think it would help their image to have the bragging rights, and help ensure wider adoption for both their network and the N900.



